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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #720 on: 11 Aug 2011, 03:48:20 am »

I wonder if it could be specific to notebooks?

09-Aug-2011 16:07:08 [---] Starting BOINC client version 6.12.33 for windows_x86_64
09-Aug-2011 16:07:08 [---] OS: Microsoft Windows 7: Home Premium x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
09-Aug-2011 16:07:08 [---] NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GT 420M (driver version unknown, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 2.1, 994MB, 128 GFLOPS peak)


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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #721 on: 11 Aug 2011, 03:55:19 am »

Hi Jason,
nvAPItest shows the correct driver version as you can see.
267.21 is the same as gpuz0.5.4 show.
Your program does it right.  Smiley
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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #722 on: 11 Aug 2011, 04:27:06 am »

My ION shows the driver correct
11.08.2011 10:16:27      Starting BOINC client version 6.10.60 for windows_intelx86
11.08.2011 10:16:28      NVIDIA GPU 0: ION (driver version 27032, CUDA version 4000, compute capability 1.1, 242MB, 35 GFLOPS peak)
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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #723 on: 11 Aug 2011, 04:42:58 am »

Hi Jason,
I posted it some months ago to Ken http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3144&nowrap=true#33133
The Querying for a CUDA Device is so different in the OPTIMUS Technology,
 see http://developer.download.nvidia.com/compute/cuda/3_2_prod/toolkit/docs/CUDA_Developer_Guide_for_Optimus_Platforms.pdf
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 I think it would be better the app choose the GPU, than jiggle with profiles.
 my two cents.
 
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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #724 on: 11 Aug 2011, 05:29:09 am »

I wonder if it could be specific to notebooks?

If mine works, then it's specific to Boinc  Cheesy (i.e. they aren't using the same mechanism, I
I'll have a proper look what the use a bit later. strange they would link with nvApi and not use that. )
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« Reply #725 on: 11 Aug 2011, 05:45:41 am »

... I think it would be better the app choose the GPU, than jiggle with profiles.
 my two cents....
yeah optimus has differences when you need Cuda + Graphics (DX or OpenGL), which we didn't ever need to worry about.  I am curious how Boinc tells the driver version now, as it looks to sometimes give the same proper result & sometimes weird 'unknown'.  I'll look into it, as really it's likely the server needs to know the proper driver version one day, to send the right applications.
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« Reply #726 on: 11 Aug 2011, 06:04:40 am »

If mine works, then it's specific to Boinc  Cheesy (i.e. they aren't using the same mechanism, I
I'll have a proper look what the use a bit later. strange they would link with nvApi and not use that. )

Well, yes, BOINC - but it's specific to certain hosts, and thus I suspect to certain graphics cards. Looking at my host list, it's only the 420M notebook which is missing a driver. The only other difference which would be worth considering is that the notebook is the only 64-bit host in that list - but there are enough 64-bit users around to rule that difference out. Oh, and notebook GPUs are almost by definition OEM variants - GPU-Z has problems getting memory usage from this one, for example.
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« Reply #727 on: 11 Aug 2011, 06:08:55 am »

Mine's 64 bit, so that's eliminated as a source.  Now that I'm curious I'll have a bit of a dig in the Boinc sources & give you another source patch... LoL
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« Reply #728 on: 11 Aug 2011, 06:12:06 am »

Mine's 64 bit, so that's eliminated as a source.  Now that I'm curious I'll have a bit of a dig in the Boinc sources & give you another source patch... LoL

I'll be around for a couple of hours to run any instrumented test apps, but I've promised to go out on a call at 13:00 UTC.
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« Reply #729 on: 11 Aug 2011, 06:13:27 am »

I'll be around for a couple of hours to run any instrumented test apps, but I've promised to go out on a call at 13:00 UTC.
I'm off to work anyway.  Only a few hours tonight.  Heinz has just got me curious now, so I have to find out  Wink

[Later:]  Looks like some ancient nvapi.lib (both 32 & 64 bit) in the Boinc Trunk.  I'll have a look if simply bringing them up to date is easy enough, and helps (or not).

Boinc trunk 32 bit version nvapi:
- name: nvapi.lib
- size: 10.1KB
Mine: nvapi.lib, 80.9KB

Boinc trunk 64 bit version nvapi:
- name: nvapi.lib
- size: 10.7KB
Mine: nvapi64.lib, 116KB


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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #730 on: 11 Aug 2011, 11:21:23 am »

BOINC is still trying to support Win2k, likely the most recent versions of that DLL don't. Time marches on...
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« Reply #731 on: 11 Aug 2011, 11:26:40 am »

BOINC is still trying to support Win2k, likely the most recent versions of that DLL don't. Time marches on...
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I'll add that the nvApi interface is 'supposed' to be forward & backward compatible. I guess it seems to work for most of us, but these freaky laptop guys just never do what they are told...
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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #732 on: 11 Aug 2011, 08:24:22 pm »

Awaiting 10 Mio from pg in the next days...
Got it gt540m_10Mio_primegrid
crunching since 20 Feb 2011 | 15:48:17 UTC, including 14 days vacation, and normal use of the laptop
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Total 193,944,311.28
Precalculation says:
200 Mio total <--- Ziel wird in 86.68 Tagen am 6. November 2011 erreicht werden.
We will see if it come true....
heinz  Grin


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Re: optimized sources
« Reply #733 on: 12 Aug 2011, 05:34:46 am »

V8-Xeon:
The new SuperFlower 1200W announced in Germany, so my waiting was a right done.
Super Flower SF1200P14HE Crystal Twilight 80+ PC-Netzteil 1200 Watt ATX
Gewöhnlich versandfertig in 2 bis 5 Wochen.
Ready to ship 2 till 5 weeks..... so it will be in september.
Datenblatt-Super-Flower-Crystal-Twilight-SF1200P14HE-1200-Watt] (Technical description, data-paper)
I choose this one because I have a lot of cables and accessories from my old SuperFlower Crystal Plus 1000W.

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« Reply #734 on: 12 Aug 2011, 08:04:19 am »

GT540m and ION
get some respectable numbers (10Mio btw 1.4Mio)...by running optimized cuda apps, no cpu-apps used.

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