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Re: 2.4 Unrecoverable Errors ??
« Reply #15 on: 12 Aug 2007, 04:31:18 pm »

. . . So, new apps compiled with VS 2005 SP1 (with Vista patches) will be uploaded shortly (today, if I can manage).

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Simon.
Thanks - but don't feel you need to rush, get a good night's sleep so you can think clearly!

I presume it would be helpful to run with the new Core 2 / Vista when available, rather than SSE3: anything else I can do to help track it down?

Richard
Thanks indeed Simon.  I agree completely with Richard, no rush.  Now that we have work I'm running with the other app no problem.  So, take your time and enjoy what's left of the weekend if you can. 
When you do give it a try, if you would like me to help test it don't hesitate to ask.  My email address is listed above.  Just attach the "Files to Intall".
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« Reply #16 on: 13 Aug 2007, 04:28:21 pm »

my last post is not true today - have on all wu error - 1073741819 (0xc0000005)


Vista 32bit and 2.4 sse2AMD and 2.4SSE3 P4 patched too
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Re: 2.4 Unrecoverable Errors ??
« Reply #17 on: 15 Aug 2007, 12:53:27 pm »

this is in the stderror.txt
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i cannnot attach debugger to the code  because it crashed immediatelly

but when i run it separately with -standalone (same workunit as before) then it is running without error ....
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Re: 2.4 Unrecoverable Errors ??
« Reply #18 on: 24 Aug 2007, 05:27:02 pm »

I saw Joe Segur's announcement of Crunch3r's new compilation for Vista.

Downloaded the SSSE3 version for my Xeon 5320, and immediately got this error:

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=598036420

Advise caution pending further investigation.
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« Reply #19 on: 24 Aug 2007, 05:35:44 pm »

Howdy,

first, if you try to do a "bench" test ... do NOT add "-show_benchmarks"...

simply run it with "application_name -bench"...

second,

.NET run time libraries at least ver. 2.0 are required to run the application (3.0 is even better).

I did test the apps on Vista ultimate 64 (all apps except the SSSE3) and did a test run on Windows XP SP2 (SMP PIII 500MHz)... all worked fine for me.

HTH



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« Reply #20 on: 24 Aug 2007, 06:04:07 pm »

1) Working in unzipped download directory: copied testWU_1 to work_unit.sah. Got stderr.txt:

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Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
Can't open init data file - running in standalone mode
------- [ benchmark ] --------
                PwrSpectOnly--:    507003 x1.00        0 -- [ avg magnitude =   1.8306 (16)]
                sse_GetPSO_npr:    526561 x0.96        0
                sse_GetPSO_p32:    560840 x0.90        0
                sse_GetPSO_p64:    485576 x1.04        0
               sse_GetPSO_p128:    593404 x0.85        0
PwrSpectOnly--[sse_GetPSO_p64]:    485576 (chosen)
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                   Transpose--:   5275459 x1.00        0 -- [ avg magnitude =   0.9994 (15)]
                    Transpose2:   3351264 x1.57        0
                    Transpose4:   2036594 x2.59        0
and a result.sah - do you need that?

2) I can see .NET 1.1 in "Programs and Features", but not yet .NET 2 or 3. Hold on while I check.
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Re: 2.4 Unrecoverable Errors ??
« Reply #21 on: 24 Aug 2007, 06:08:51 pm »

FWIW, i do have another "unconfirmed" idea. I'll spuspect that boinc CC 5.10.x is causing some trouble too.

However, i cannot verify that cuz i do not run S@H any more and before that i never used a CC 5.10.X ( those are all badly broken).

Though i think it's worth trying to run the app using  boinc CC 5.8.16.






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« Reply #22 on: 24 Aug 2007, 06:19:09 pm »

I couldn't see .NET 2 anywhere in 'Programs and Features' (successor to 'Add or Remove Programs'). So I downloaded dotnetfx.exe from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856eacb-4362-4b0d-8edd-aab15c5e04f5&displaylang=en - it says Vista Business is supported, on that page.

When I ran it, I got Error: Product already installed This product is already installed as part of the operating system.

I don't want to test install BOINC 5.8.16 tonight - too late for that sort of thing! - and anyway I've got no WUs to test, download problems all day  Angry

I'll leave SETI suspended overnight, but network enabled - see if I can get some WUs to test that way.
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« Reply #23 on: 24 Aug 2007, 06:24:00 pm »

FWIW, i do have another "unconfirmed" idea. I'll spuspect that boinc CC 5.10.x is causing some trouble too.

However, i cannot verify that cuz i do not run S@H any more and before that i never used a CC 5.10.X ( those are all badly broken).

I've been running CC 5.10.13 for a while now, and seen no evidence of the "badly broken" of which you speak. Runs SETI stock, KSWN 2.2B, Einstein and CPDN just fine. Two possible cases of the service stopping unexpectedly, but nothing else. What's the problem you see?
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« Reply #24 on: 24 Aug 2007, 07:04:38 pm »

Result http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=597123181 has downloaded while we've been chatting, so I've let it run. It's a short one (~40 minutes), and so far it's running OK - 25% in just under 10 minutes. At least we'll get something different to look at in std_err.txt
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« Reply #25 on: 24 Aug 2007, 11:37:29 pm »

I'll back Crunch3r's comments on 5.10.13 as it would not work w/ x32 -doze 2.4 SSSE3 on my T7200.

WUs would randomly slow by 75% and take 2-2.5 times as long to complete as they should.  I was getting longer times than a P-M 1.7 running stock 5.27.  NO WAY that is correct.  in other cases, threads would start and freeze leaving only 1 thread running.

FWIW, this "stable" BOINC version also froze-up running 2.3 development aps and 2.2B.
I've tried resets, uninstalls/reinstalls, defrag/restart etc. 
Once I went back to 5.4.11, everything ran perfect.
I also had issues w/ 5.10.13 on T7200 iMactel and "reverted" to 5.4.9.  Problems went away.
IMO, 5.10.13 has problems and isn't a stable release.  Actually, I've run Betas w/ less issues in the past than this "stable" one.

Not ranting on BOINC, but this one version is just particularly bad.  Shocked
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« Reply #26 on: 25 Aug 2007, 04:15:37 am »

Hi Simon,

I've been seeing the same errors as Richard.  I'm running 2.4_Windows_x32_SSSE3 on Vista Home Premium.  This is a Core 2 Duo (E6600).  For me the WU's always blow up as soon as they start, either on a new WU or on one that was running normally and is being restarted by closing BOINC and restarting it.

After reading your suggestions in this thread I confirmed that .NET Framework 3.0 is installed on the system and I backloaded the CC to 5.8.16. It was running 5.10.13.  But I  am getting the same errors. 

Here is the WU, and I'm attaching the original result file which I managed to save. 

Regards,
Gus

More Info -
- This is not the same machine that I reported at the beginning of this thread.  That was a Q6600 with Vista Home Basic.
- I just realized that WinZip truncated the attached file name which ends with 4.5.11
- The machine has all available Windoz Updates installed.
- I'm going to bed now before I pass out.

* 13fe07ab.3187.22567.4.5.zip (267.44 KB - downloaded 56 times.)
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« Reply #27 on: 25 Aug 2007, 04:30:38 am »

Let one more run as a test.

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/result.php?resultid=597127577 errored out under 3 seconds.

Suspending all SETI activity for the moment - I now have some spare WUs I can use for testing debug builds if you want.
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« Reply #28 on: 25 Aug 2007, 04:25:54 pm »

Maybe I should have been deleting them - didn't know there was a limit. Try again.

I'll try SSE3 quickly, then must break for food.
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« Reply #29 on: 25 Aug 2007, 06:18:21 pm »

Maybe I should have been deleting them - didn't know there was a limit. Try again.

I'll try SSE3 quickly, then must break for food.
@Richard - Any luck running SSE3?

@Crunch3r - You've probably considered this already, and if it is a silly suggestion please forgive a novice. 

If I understand it correctly, when the app starts it tries several techniques on the data to determine the best routines to use to crunch it.  Since (for me at least) these always fail within seconds of starting, might the problem be within that routine?  In other words, might the app sometimes try an illegal operation as part of these tests?  Just a thought.

BTW, I offered earlier and I'll do so again. I'm available for help in testing this if you would like.  gobermeyer at comcast dot net.

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